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Locations

lost in time ...

 

Maskell's Farm

Fyansford

Located on the river flats east of Moorabool River 

(between the river and Hyland Street)

 

INFORMATION WANTED...

  • Who lived there?

  • What sort of farm was it?

  • What happened to it?

  • Can you tell us anything about it?

  • Do you know of any other photos of the farm?

Detail from selected early photographs...

Luke never quite made it...

 

My question is, "Who was Luke?"

He may well have been a chippy at the cementies...

But, why him?

Why was he chosen to have a street named after him?

 

Surely, there must be someone. Someone who ...

  • who knew him,

  • who knew what he did,

  • who knew why he was selected to have his own street name... 

 

I feel a degree of sadness to think (for whatever reason)

he has been denied his moment in the sun... 

Luke

Can you help?

For more info - See Luke Street...

Can anyone add to this collection of clues?

Rail line 

from Batesford quarry to Fyansford cement works

 

 

Maps of rail line connecting

Batesford limestone quarries to Fyansford cement works

Source: Rail Geelong

The Fyansford cement rail line was the focus of recent a message to Fyansford.com

In his message ‘David’ posed a range of questions re the narrow gauge rail line

that ran to/from the limestone quarry...

Initially locomotives shunted wagons filled with limestone to a crusher on the quarry floor and then across country to the cement works.

In the late 1920s, when work commenced on a new quarry, the tunnel down into the quarry was constructed; one which branched off the main line near the Moorabool River trestle bridge.

To cope with smoke-accumulation problems in the tunnel four ventilation shafts were installed.

The line ceased operation in April 1966; replaced by a crushing plant on the quarry floor and an aerial beltway connecting the quarry with the Fyansford cement works until its closure in 2001.

Reading the sources below makes fascinating reading, but what remains to be seen today?

In my younger days, I would not have hesitated to revisit these sites.

Now I have to rely on others.

I'd love to hear from anyone with recent experience of visiting the former rail line, trestle bridge, ventilation shafts or tunnel entry / exit.

Better still, does anyone have any contemporary photographs of these sites? 

If you can add to this collection

I'd love to hear from you.

John

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Where exactly... 

was the old trestle bridge and the tunnel entry?

 

 

"I looked. But, I couldn't find a trace of either…"

So, Steve asked me where they were...

For me, in the old days, it was simple; head to the top of Church street (which in winter was pretty bare apart from some isolated houses and muddy roads), go over the crest and head downhill in a NNW direction and there they were.

But, with the Geelong ring-road and a multitude of changes…

I checked my library of photos but nothing remotely recent. Perhaps, Google Earth or some the old maps might help. 

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Well, this is what I think. (Co-ordinates 38°07'07.7"S 144°18'49.7"E)

I was recently asked about the new Hamilton Hwy. roundabout

and whether Atkins St will feed into it (by an editor for WAZE).

Enquiries to Gen Fyansford resulted in an email

from Michael (assistant project manager) who confirmed that,

“Atkins St. has been discontinued and the ‘stub’ of the roundabout will connect with the future stage 2A adjacent to stage 2”

 

This lead me to thinking:

1.      Where will the new road be (considering that it connects the ‘stub’ with a              road leading from a future Gen Fyansford release (stage 2A)

2.      What would this new road be called?

 

Atkins Street!

Hmm! 

What Atkins Street?

 

An examination of  Gen Fyansford documents

strongly hints at the new-road layout.

Detail from Gen Fyansford Master Plan

 

Well, we now know

So, what will this new road be called?

Back in 1931 it was Fyans Street

Then it became Atkins Street

So, what's next?

Though un-named on this Gen Fyansford document, it would be logical that the new street would be called Monier Way...

As viewed from the roundabout...

So, what do we know?

  • Atkins Street will disappear with the property being absorbed

into the future Gen Fyansford stage 2A (adjacent to stage 2).

  • A new road will connect to the stub at the new Hamilton highway roundabout

and lead through to the present Monier Way.

  • This new road will run parallel to the present Atkins Street on the length of property currently on the Fyansford side of the present Atkins Street.

  • It is logical that this new road would be called Monier Way.

  • Thus, Monier Way will form a connection between the Hamilton Highway

and Church Street in Herne Hill running through Gen Fyansford 

and The Heights

 

Why might parishoners of St Luke's church be so surprised? Hmmm!

Of course,

all this is just a personal opinion.

Pure speculation...

Now, of course, it's not speculation..

It's fact!

 

Viccars' Store!

Gugger's Store! 

The old post office!

I just love comments generated by old photos.

More interesting (at times) than what I get from TROVE.  And, much more likely

to distract me from what it is I'm currently working on...

I have

for quite a while

been investigating this store. See: My Post Office Conundrum

Every now and then a little bit more information re the photo comes to light.

 

On 1st August, 2019, I was excited to read Stephen Carroll's  suggestion that it was ..."... Fyansford General Store which was right next door to the cement Works and also run by my late Aunty betty Viccars for some years."

I responded, "Thanks for your input. Could you confirm the address of your aunt’s general store? Cheers!"

Stephen replied, "I do believe with certainty (no actual proof) that it was just alongside the Cement Works. The Cement Works had it knocked down. As a teenager growing up in Bannockburn, we would sometimes ride our pushbikes in Geelong and call in and see Aunty Betty. Her Husband Norman Viccars also worked at the Cement Works. My Father can confirm it also. If Max Taylor or any of the other older members are on this site, than they should also be able to confirm the address of this shop".

This was followed by a suggestion from Dianne Higgins, "The shop address was Cnr Aitkins St & Hyland St., Fyansford. This was the Post Office and had a phone box out the front. The Guggers General Store was at 60 Hyland St."

Thus, I can now confirm:

  • Viccars' Store was located on the N-corner of Atkins and Hyland Streets

  • Gugger's General Store was located at 60 Hyland Street

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The maps below should I think help clarify the situation: 

 

Gugger's General Store

Viccars' Store

Contemporary photo of Gugger's Store

Courtesy: Glenn McLean

Fyansford 1932.

A.J (Alf) Gugger’s Garage (next to the grocer’s)
Built by Bill McEwen
Closed in 1945 – House is still there.

 

Photo posted by Evert van Dreven‎ on

Geelong In Historical Pictures (30 July, 2019)

 

A Fyansford Store receipt dated 8 December, 1949, provide by Dave Keellings.

Signed by Zita Gugger (Courtesy Bill Busbridge)

 

Peceli & Wendy's

words under scrutiny

I have long appreciated the artistic and verbal contributions made by Wendy and her partner, Peceli, (now deceased) in their gently warming blog, “Geelong Visual Diary”, thinking their comments well thought out and carefully considered. See: https://www.fyansford.com/through-others-eyes

Hence, I take seriously remarks made in their 2010 blog – A kind of Brigadoon near Geelong.

I didn’t question the ‘three hotels’. But, three schools and two churches….!

Got me thinking...

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I guess the churches and second / third schools might as well have never existed

for all we know about them.

Can anyone throw light on the any of the now non-existent churches / schools?

It has been suggested that the sites may haver been allocated but never acted upon...

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